B. Lynn Goodwin is the owner of Writer Advice, www.writeradvice.com. She’s written You Want Me to Do WHAT? Journaling for Caregivers, Talent, Never Too Late: From Wannabe to Wife at 62, and her latest novel, Disrupted. Talent was short-listed for a Literary Lightbox Award, won a bronze medal in the Moonbeam Children’s Book Awards, and was a finalist for a Sarton Women’s Book Award, while Never Too Late: From Wannabe to Wife at 62 won a National Indie Excellence Award and was a finalist elsewhere. She is a reviewer and teacher at Story Circle Network, and she is a manuscript coach at Writer Advice.

I’d like to start by discussing your background in theater. Who or what sparked your passion for the stage? How does that background factor into your writing?

(BLG): My mother sparked my interest. She’d wanted to be an actress and I cast her in a couple of my shows when I was directing community theater. At that time there weren’t as many opportunities to explore what you wanted to be, or if there were, I didn’t know about them. I loved teaching high school and college theatre because I enjoyed coaching actors and watching them transform into the characters they were supposed to be. I also loved showing them ways to tap into their creativity and analytical skills. Little did I know it would lead to writing.

Here’s a key tip: Every character in a play or a piece of literature wants something. Identify what the character wants, what s/he can do to get it, and what is in her/his way. Whether you’re acting from a script, performing in a commercial, or writing fiction, memoir, or even self help, these principles will give you three-dimensional characters.

Tell me a little bit about the writing process and inspiration for your latest novel, Disrupted.

(BLG): Disrupted was inspired by the what ifs that lurk in my mind. What if the long-predicted earthquake on the Hayward Fault actually happened? What’s the aftermath of losing a sibling in the war? For that matter, what’s the aftermath of being displaced? And what can you pull off in terms of constructive contributions when you’re young, optimistic, and eager to make the world work as it should?

First drafts provide clay. They give you the material to sculpt. You can add clay, remove clay, and reshape it. Revision empowers writers. You get to see what you can do with the words on the page.

What do you do if you have no ideas? Write anyway. Make a list of what you need to do or the things you’ve already done this week. Let one idea lead to the next and don’t worry about structure. You’re just getting ideas on the page.

What do you do if your first draft is perfect and you need no revision? Check your ego. Read looking for what’s missing. Have a peer read it to you and notice where she hesitates and when his forehead crunches because he’s puzzled. Ask him what he likes and what trips him up. Listen to responses. Don’t hesitate to do one more draft, even if you’ve already revised it 9 times.

How will you know when it’s ready to submit? Put it away for a month or so. When you take it out, you may see places to improve. Trust the distance of time and space as well as your instincts.

On that note, let’s talk about your influences in general. What inspires you, as a reader and as a writer?

(BLG): Although I’m not a skilled marketer, I like helping other writers by acknowledging what’s right in their work. The desire to do that influences me. I’m inspired by authors who write character driven novels that share insights into the workings and motivations of people in clear, well-written prose. I love a psychological thriller, a well-written mystery, most memoirs, lots of book club selections, and almost every book sent to me for review. I’m a fan of good, character-driven, contemporary YA and coming of age as well.

You’ve mentioned that reviewing plays an important role in the writing community, connecting and empowering writers. Can you elaborate a little bit on that idea? Was Writer Advice born out of that desire to connect and empower writers?

(BLG): Nobody likes to feel stuck. A good, non-judgmental writing community can help a writer to move forward. I love it when I’m working with a writer who writes back to tell me how useful my ideas are. I like triggering new ideas in their mind as much as I like explaining the basics to those who’ve never learned them but have a passion for telling their story.

I originally created Writer Advice, www.writeradvice.com, because I wanted to learn the secrets of published authors and if they took the time to answer my questions, I thought I should share their ideas. The idea was to give them publicity and spread the word. Writer Advice has grown and changed and so have I. I hope it has something valuable to offer you, and I’m always open to your questions and suggestions as well as editing work.

Finally, as a published author yourself, is there any advice that you’d like to share with aspiring writers?

(BLG):
Write daily for at least 20 minutes.
Let one idea lead to another. You can edit later.
Read widely.
Review the books of others. You’re giving back to the community.
Edit carefully, asking yourself what you intended to convey.
Keep writing.
Find a writing community.
Don’t try to do it all in one day.
Look for the joys in life.
There are stories all around us, but no two people see them in the same way. What’s your version?

Eve Sprunt is the author of A Guide for Dual-Career Couples, Rewriting the Rules and co-author of A Guide to Career Resilience, For Women and Under-Represented Groups. Her latest book, Passionate Persistence: The Life of My Mother, Ruth Chew, explores her mother’s life as a popular children’s author and illustrator.

Let’s start by talking a bit about your writing process. What inspires you as a reader and as a writer?

(ES): Writing has played a huge role in my career. I realized very early that if I documented my technical work in writing, it was more difficult for men to steal the credit. I also learned that taking risks (and as I envisioned) walking a tightrope, I was more likely to succeed than if I were risk-averse.

Although all of my degrees are in geophysics (BS and MS from MIT and Ph.D. from Stanford where I was the first woman to receive a Ph.D. in Geophysics), early in my career, I realized that I had a better chance of staying employed if I impersonated an engineer. When I served as the senior technical editor of the Society of Petroleum Engineers in the 1990’s, I had a monthly column in the society’s publication. I leveraged that column to address the issues bedeviling the rank and file technical professionals.  

Later in my career when I was working in management roles, I was horrified that my employer was requiring female members of dual-career couples to declare whose career took precedence instead of offering opportunities and letting the couples decide what they were willing to sacrifice to advance. I collaborated with other women across the petroleum industry and leveraged several professional societies to gather information on issues facing dual-career couples. Immediately after I retired, I began writing A Guide for Dual-Career Couples, Rewriting the Rules, which was published by Praeger in 2016. 

When I read the letters my aunt wrote in the 1950’s while she was in Pakistan on sabbatical from her position as an English instructor at Mills College, I was enthralled. My aunt never shared the full story with her family! An American man she encountered while touring northern Pakistan by herself, came to see her in Oakland and repeatedly begged her to marry him. After twice rejecting his marriage proposals, she decided to sacrifice her career for love. When I read her love letters, I was mesmerized. I felt compelled to share her story and did so in Dearest Audrey, An Unlikely Love Story, which I self-published in 2019. 

In 2020, I co-authored Mentoring and Sponsoring, Keys to Success, which was published by Springer, with an Italian-Venezuelan friend, Maria-Angela Capello, while she was working in Kuwait. We have never lived in the same place at the same time and all of our collaboration has been done remotely. 

Then I persuaded Maria Angela Capello to co-author A Guide to Career Resilience, For Women and Under-Represented Groups,which was published by Springer in 2022. Our male editor at Springer insisted we tone down the book, but we still managed to hit most of the issues we felt were important.

What do you tend to read in your free time, and can you share a recent book or piece that impacted you?

(ES): I prefer to read non-fiction, because then I have to accept that the improbable events are real. I loved Sonia Purnell’s A Woman of Importance, The Untold Story of the American Spy Who Helped Win World War II. Despite having a prosthetic leg and battling sexual discrimination within her own organization, the heroine accomplished seemingly impossible tasks. 

Could you tell me a little more about your latest book, Passionate Persistence: The Life of My Mother, Ruth Chew? What encouraged you to write a biography of your mother’s life as a children’s author and illustrator?

(ES): My mother, Ruth Chew, became a very successful children’s book author and illustrator after I left home. Her first book, The Wednesday Witch, sold over a million copies and she went on to author and illustrate 28 more children’s chapter books and was also asked to illustrate Shark Lady. My mother kept a daily journal, but made it clear we were never to read it. During the pandemic, many years after her death, I decided, “What’s the point in keeping her diaries if no one ever reads them. So, I did. It was like opening Pandora’s box. What I learned, I couldn’t forget. Passionate Persistence, The Life of My Mother, Ruth Chew (Author of The Wednesday Witch) is based on what I learned from her diaries. I thought I would be writing about how against tremendous odds, she became a great success, but was horrified to discover that after I left home, my younger siblings were left to fend for themselves. Her story was much more complex than I realized. Mother used to say, “I’m an eleven year-old trapped in an adult’s body.” Reading her diaries, I realized that she may have been so successful because her empathy level matched that of her elementary school readers.

You have an extensive professional background in engineering and the energy industry. When did you first realize that you’d like to pursue a technical degree? What advice do you have for young women interested in pursuing technical careers?

(ES): My mother wanted me to be an artist like her, but I like science and applied for admission to MIT, where for the first time in my life, I felt as if I belonged. Don’t let anyone tell you, “You can’t.” Get the best education you can and shoot for the stars. You can “have everything” – a career and a family. Keep an open mind. The people who you think would be less likely to support you may be your strongest advocates. Middle Eastern men (both Christian and Muslim) have been my strongest supporters, advocates and friends!

In a similar vein, do you have any tips for new writers?

(ES): Don’t listen to anyone who says, “You can’t.” If you care enough, you can figure out a way to do anything.

Are there any exciting projects that you’re currently working on, or would like to start one day soon?

(ES): I’m working on a memoir about my career and am revising the approximately 92,000 words of my draft.

Tell us a little about yourself in regards to your background.

(RK): I was born and raised all over India because my father was a doctor in the Indian Army. I studied in eight schools all over India and I think that made me an observer of people and places and also a believer in the universality of human nature. We are more alike than we think or like to believe!

After high school, I went to engineering college at the Indian Institute of Technology which is one of the most competitive engineering schools in India. In the ’80s there were very few women in that field, and in my class of nearly 300 men, there were only two women! 

Following that, I came to the US for graduate school in the late ‘80s and got an MS in engineering at Northwestern University. After that followed work as an engineer for a while, and then I switched over to business and tech, which is where I’ve spent the last 25+ years. I’ve worked at many companies big and small and I’ve also mentored a lot of start-ups and their founders, especially several social impact driven companies. That’s something I continue to do as an executive mentor. 

Theatre, writing, reading, books and poetry have been my constant companions along the way. But then in the last couple of years I decided to get serious about writing, and have turned my attention to it more intentionally, and in some ways, more formally. So in some ways I’m on to writing as my third career! 

How did you get started in your writing journey? Why did you decide to change careers from an engineer to a writer?

(RK): I’ve always written here and there, articles and essays in school, college and at work, which was more business writing of course. I’ve always loved words and expressing myself through them. And I read a lot as a kid and never really stopped. Reading is my primary mode of learning. I read a wide variety—everything from novels to short stories to works of psychology, philosophy etc.

And I’d been working for over three decades in engineering, business and tech and somewhere along the way about twelve years ago, out of nowhere poetry came spilling out of me! I’d never written poems in any serious way before that. It was as if the poems were waiting for an escape, for a chance, for a crack in my “busyness” to force my hand and my mind into paying deeper attention. 

Being of a strong analytical mind, and having spent most of my career in analytically inclined careers, I found myself at a strange crossroads. When this inner push to write wouldn’t be tamed I had to face it. There was the default path ahead, which I could walk pretty easily and was the sensible thing to do, in terms of both financial benefit and external glory, and there was this thing which wouldn’t let go. For a while I thought I could do both. And I did. But I started to see that I’d lost the taste for a corporate career and its laurels were no longer making me happy. I didn’t feel burnt out, it wasn’t exhaustion, instead I felt a thirst for something else entirely. I would be in meetings daydreaming, wanting to pen down what couldn’t wait. Most of my poetry from 2010-2021 came out that way. After a decade of pretending I could “do it all” I woke up one morning and decided to stop. It took a bit more time to wrap up loose ends but I gave myself permission for this left turn. 

So here I am now. It took me a bit of time and getting used to, to claim that I’m a writer without any compunction or this feeling that I was asking for permission. I didn’t realize how much I love the act of writing itself and also the learning, this drinking from a firehose that I get to do daily. I feel like a student again, and it’s a wonderful feeling. I regularly publish my poetry and stories and essays on my blog https://arrivalsanddepartures.substack.com/.  That’s also the name of my first poetry book. I’ve also been published in various anthologies and literary magazines and journals, so I’ve had a teeny bit of exposure.

My main focus though for now is to learn how to be a better writer, and I’m continually pushing myself on that path, taking classes, learning from other writers in critique groups and writing clubs, and also just reading up to hone and refine my craft. It’s a wonderful journey and a privilege to allow for this passion.

How did you find the WNBA?

(RK): I initially discovered the WNBA while searching for organizations for writers on the internet. But then a writer friend who I met through an online literary event during Covid, Anniqua Rana, who’s on the board of the San Francisco chapter of the WNBA introduced me and brought me in. And I discovered a great avenue for meeting other writers, for learning the craft from experts in the industry and also to find out about local and virtual events for new and established writers.

How would you define your writing style when it comes to poetry?

(RK): My writing style, when it comes to poetry, is mostly free verse, sometimes with rhyme, quatrains, haikus, tankas, even a rap song for a theatrical piece and a few other forms, but most of my poetry tends to run free. 

And most of it writes itself, in that it shows up and demands to be written, and I feel like I simply serve as the scribe. That’s really the overwhelm I feel with my poetry. It demands to be heard, it must be seen, and I show up as the primary witness. A lot of my poetry has to do with me living in my head, thinking about life and philosophy and aging and mortality, nature, and the nature of relationships and of just being human; a lot of it is existential in its wanderings, and a lot of it philosophical as well. Of course, much of my poetry is inspired by special moments in life, everything from moments of love and friendship, motherhood, watching my daughter grow up to very specific moments such as seeing children fascinated by nature like I was as a kid, to observing tragedies in everyday life. So the trigger can really be any aspect of life, from the smallest to the largest questions that face us, and most of it comes out in a very literary and free verse form. 

I love words. I’ve always loved words, and so a lot of it plays with words, sometimes in rhyme, in alliteration and in the use of words to evoke a certain musicality and an element of surprise and introspection, both on my part and for the reader. My only book of poetry so far Arrivals and Departures:A Journey in Poems is on Amazon. And my blog of the same name, https://arrivalsanddepartures.substack.com/ is home to my more recent work.

I noticed you have a passion for photography, what is your inspiration for the photos you take?

(RK): Nature, color and light. I am very visual and very drawn to color. It’s how I’ve designed my home—bathing it in bright light, skylights, windows and bright color. Sometimes I wonder if I have some form of synesthesia, or perhaps a condition where I see colors in hues that are brighter than what most people see; because I’m instantly attracted to nature in its brightest, most vivid forms. Hence nature, flowers, change of seasons and the dance of light occupy most of my photographic interest.

(RK): What can you tell us about your poetry collection Arrivals & Departures: Journeys in Poems? Any personal stories behind the collection?

My poems are about finding and living a meaningful life. On love, on questions life asks of us and how we find answers in daily particulars and in words of prophets we admire, on being in love, on being a mother, and forging, even losing friendships, the wounds of history and pain. 

Many of my poems seek to examine my personal history of having grown up a musafir (traveler) in India, of being an immigrant to America, a daughter with loved ones too far away, of finding myself suspended in that liminal space between two homes and of being a woman of Indian origin with all that its gifts, assumptions and questions.

A lot of the poems are also from a unique personal history of my family’s origins which is tied to the history of India. India became independent from British colonial rule in 1947 and at the same time India was partitioned into two countries Pakistan, which became an Islamic Republic, and India, which continued on as a secular Republic. Unfortunately, this was not a peaceful split. A great upheaval, terrible violence and tragedy followed as both Hindus and Muslims who found themselves on the “wrong” side of the border (based on religion) were forced to flee their generational homes, their lives and the only homes they’d ever known. Both my parents were refugee children whose families had to leave everything in what now became Pakistan to move to the new India. Several of my poems are about this 1947 Partition of India, and the tragedy and traumatic aftermath of that event. In particular, my interest has been on the effect it had on women and injustice and tragedy that they suffered during Partition. Those poems are also part of my collection. I continue to write essays on that subject as well.

(RK): How have your experiences as a playwright shaped your identity? Also how was your full length play The Wife created?

In terms of being a playwright and my identity, I would say that it’s actually the reverse. It’s really my identity that shapes a lot of my playwriting. 

I’ve always been interested in theater. Since my father was a doctor in the Indian Army, I went from school to school, and I always acted in theater. I also directed plays during my high school years. And I continued as a theater actor in college. But I did not become a playwright until more recently even though I entertained stories in my head that I wanted to tell. 

Then in 2021 I was invited by EnActe Arts, a Bay Area theater company with international standing and reach to submit my work. They invited me to be their first WEFT—women enact for themselves—playwright-in-residence for that program. I wrote four theatrical pieces, all of which were produced and I’m very grateful for that opportunity. It was an incredible feeling to see my words come alive from the mouths of talented actors from all over the world. Then in 2023 I created my first full length play “The Wife” (still looking for a better title), which was selected for EnActe Arts 2023 “New Works Festival”.  

 All of my plays have been about Indian women, both in India as well as in the diaspora. My stories tend to be about their struggles against patriarchal social norms and expectations within Indian society. My focus however is not on depicting Indian women as hapless victims, but on how these women rediscover and reclaim their own agency. 

In that regard, “The Wife”  is interesting because there are a few different themes that come together in that one—of identity, culture, and self-discovery. It traces the internal journey of a housewife of a venture capitalist (both of Indian origin) in Silicon Valley. She has everything: a decent and ambitious husband, good kids, and an affluent life. Except that somewhere along the way she’s forgotten what fulfills her as an individual. When an attractive neighbor arrives next door and his friendship makes her feel truly seen, she’s awakened to her own needs. Her attraction to the neighbor is further complicated by their differing ethnic and racial backgrounds. As the story progresses she’s forced to confront her desires along with her own awakening. The play poses several questions to the audience: Does the smallest minority — the individual — within the “model minority” matter? What if the individual wants something quite different than what’s expected of her?

With all of my plays, my interest is in finding the voice and the agency of the Indian woman within the context of her life, mores and relationships. 

For more information about Reena’s plays click here!

Tell us about your hobbies?

(RK): I do suffer from way too many interests and hobbies. I’m a photographer, which was an accidental discovery. I publish my photographs on Instagram, you can find me at @1stardusty on Instagram. 

I’m also an avid gardener. And I love to cook, and you’ll find me spending a lot of time trying out new recipes and cooking for friends and family. It’s something that gives me a lot of meaning and satisfaction. All of these things keep me deeply happy and busy. 

(RK): Is there anything else you would like to add or things we can look forward to in the future?

In terms of what’s in the future, all I can say is that I’m super excited. I’ve written another play, and I continue to write stories. 

I think my focus right now and probably in the near future, is going to be on short stories, which is a form I love and admire deeply. It’s, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful and equally underrated forms of writing. But it’s a form that I’ve always loved, even in Hindi literature, which I read when I was much younger. I’m attracted to this form with its forced compaction and economy that demands an exacting discipline of attention both from the writer and the reader. I’m a great admirer of many short story writers, including Alice Munro, who we unfortunately lost this year. And what a body of work she left behind!  I’m still learning the craft, so I’m far from satisfied with any of the ones I’ve produced so far, but I keep writing and keep putting them out there and honing them as I go. 

I also look forward to helping the WNBA in whatever capacity I can, and in continuing to offer other writers and readers the support we can.

Photo taken by Art Bodner

Leslie Kirk Campbell is the inspiring author of the short fiction collection The Man with Eight Pairs of Legs and the founder of Ripe Fruit Writing in SF. She emphasizes the importance of one’s identity, freedom, and self will through her own personal experiences across her various works.

How would you describe yourself as an author? What inspires your creativity and writing style?

(LKC): I fell in love with language when I was 9 years old, the way a dancer falls in love with her body. I began as a poet, getting an MA in Poetry from San Francisco State and teaching poetry there as well as to children of all ages with California Poets in the Schools. Later in life, I evolved into a short fiction writer, which is where I relish using the art of languaging now. I care about people (my characters) but I also care about ideas: memory, freedom, violation, loving across unexpected borders. More than anything, I thrill at the orchestration of music that words can make. For 30 years, with Ripe Fruit Writing, the creative writing school I founded, I have trained adult students to know what a poet knows about language as a foundation for writing in any genre. Imagination. Perception. Love of Language. Courage. Compassion. Commitment. These are the six qualities that converge to create powerful writing that flows from the heart.

Tell us about your collection of short stories within your book “The Man with Eight Pairs of Legs”. What is the message behind each of these stories?

(LKC): The eight stories in “The Man with Eight Pairs of Legs,” my debut short fiction collection, written in my sixties, are the first stories I have ever written and are where I cut my teeth on fiction. (Note to seniors: it is never too late!) I simply wrote the stories I needed to write, most based on ideas, images, or dreams I had been carrying around with me for the 20 years I was raising my two sons. When gathering stories for a collection, I discovered it had been my body that had been talking to me the whole time. These stories explore ways our bodies are marked by memory, sometimes visibly – scars, bruises, tracks, tattoos – sometimes invisibly over generations. I am interested in stories that balance on a blade of danger, stories with characters who are pushed to the edge. My goal is to create stories that will engage the reader’s heart, mind and body simultaneously. I have no specific message. My hope is that my stories will deepen the compassion of the reader as they have deepened my own through the long process of writing them.

Aside from being a writer, what type of activities/hobbies do you participate in during your free time?

(LKC): I am a woman who loves ritual. My daily sacred place of ritual is my garden. On weekends, I often spend timeless hours tending to my flowers and plants. I talk to them, delight in the visitations of birds, butterflies, the occasional squirrel. I love to read literature daily – poetry, fiction, creative non-fiction – and, occasionally, to see a film that does on the screen what I ache for on the page. I love teaching my students. I fall in love with them and delight in the true, language-loving pieces they write in my Greenhouse of the Imagination. I consider all my time to be free time because I am passionate about everything I do. My friendships, both with friends and family, are my lodestone. My identity as a mother is a primary one.

Panelist Leslie Kirk Campbell at the Podium

How have your personal stories/experiences shaped your short fiction collection in regards to freedom, identity and self-worth?

(LKC): I believe in the ‘writing faith,’ that we always write what we need to write. What my body has experienced, my dreams, my emotional landscape, the people I have known, the places I have been, all gird the stories I write. Writing is an excavation. I have to pull everything out. I come from bi-cultural, bi-regional parents. I am bisexual. I have lived in many places. We hold multitudes. And I, too, am many things. All of who I am converges in my art so that I am most myself when I am absorbed in arranging words on the page. When I received my MFA in fiction from Bennington at 62, I finally felt AUTHORIZED. Having an award-winning book and reading my stories to audiences across the country, has solidified my identity as an artist and made me whole.

What are your plans for the future? Anything we should look forward to such as new book releases?

(LKC): I am deep into working on a second short story collection, Free Radicals. I am fascinated by people whose lives are guided by unusual passions, moved by the bonds between parents and their children, intrigued by mortality, and curious about the meaning of freedom in its many forms. I am exploring these themes in the stories I am currently writing.

Is there anything else you would like to add?

(LKC): THAT’S PLENTY!!

Find out more about Leslie Kirk Campbell.